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retired from the force she was Brazilian in

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1992 5 years ago it didn't cross my

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mind to talk to the

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ufologists and report I didn't talk

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much with the time I talked very

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practical always when he comes to Brazil

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to contact me it was Irene

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but I never

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wrote anything on my own I was never

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I already think differently I think he

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must have said something I think

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'm going to celebrate 60 years

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of disclosure is talking like this

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situation see  well I'm going to talk about it

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19778 around I had a conversation

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nothing talking another one without authorization

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for publication at all

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Ok so years later

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things had changed I was already on the

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reserve I could already talk without

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complications ok

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there are problems

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immediate for my strength and for myself

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and knowing the seriousness of the magazine

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and the friends I know who

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collaborate with the magazine I know

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some

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gives me more peace of mind to talk if

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there is not sensationalism

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the connotation of sensationalism and

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publish an article by  simple reason

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for sale sell the matter

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in order to publish to clarify the

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matter thank you there is no monetary interest

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Coronel how did it all begin how

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did the Initial Estopim first

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how was the interest in Cruzeiro

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predating the practical operation don't see well

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in 1952  53 I was 12 years old 13 years ago and I

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was at the window of my house in Belém and

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a very large object appeared. There was a

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very large light over the city. I saw it and

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the next day, it was published in the

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newspaper.

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a federation of scouts

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Children's and Youth Educational Federation in

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of a swimming competition had

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stopped on top really everyone saw it

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Thanks kid I saw something the next day

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I've always been in

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extraterrestrial life I've always believed

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in the possibility that they were

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curious to be in the  observing

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investigating a form a planet with

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life something an intelligence

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Flora was observing even if the

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she provided all

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administrative and financial support for the

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actions of the command and the known

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information services operations session

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as A2 aeronautics

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is closely linked to State security

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State security Marcos

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the objectives phenophagous ideas arrived

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here and this

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essence of

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the actions of terrorists and

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communist party groups these other things

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that we  he had to be fighting

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was state security

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on his resume also a

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very interesting function about the head of the

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the air force she had an old idea

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of ​​making a border necklace it was the

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idea of ​​a brigadier she had a lot of

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knowledge about the Amazon  a

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very intelligent person Brigadeiro Camarão João

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Camarão Teles Ribeiro and he had this

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idea of ​​forming a

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border collar that is 200 km on the edge of

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Fronteira a field with a

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Protestant or Catholic religious mission and a

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assistance from a track  on landing a

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group of religious people to

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assist And Fabi

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supporting all of this I, as a

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paratrooper,

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also had this

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greater facility at one time adaptability

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is this type of Mission

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cultured and we always worked

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ancient civilization and that abandoned the jungle took

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clear pyramidal formation both perfect of a

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pyramid This was found where

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exactly  but if I'm not mistaken, the

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Brazil.

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bank robberies and kidnappings, these things, I

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interest or concern because of that

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journey that they were an external threat it

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was also just seen as a phenomenon that

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even doubtful some social most

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of them as a thing even of the elderly and

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about it made a lot of jokes

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about it  That's the luck of this

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dish operation to come out is that the commander

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at the time was interested in that is to

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believe in that he was Commander

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Lopes de Oliveira brigadier Commander

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in Belém and how did the idea come up it was

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this  operation that leader was Colonel

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so now you have loaded this case

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with the beginning of the alteration so that I

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would take care of the matter and be

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nation  from the world that calls the flying saucer the flying saucer the

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french is called the cult is

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flying saucer the portuguese calls it a flying saucer the

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even knew what i'm going to call it too

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like the  we put some operations in the middle

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it's a piece of code and this one

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couldn't be too far away from the

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real purpose of the operation we couldn't

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call it operation flying saucer I also didn't

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want to call it a flying virus and there was

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your boss that he already had then in

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some investigation going on when I

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arrived there were already some agents already

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sent to

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flying over the boats

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terrified he asked how was the thing in the

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air  he went to the command of the first

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command asking Providence

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or trip

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confidentiality I didn't pass it at the time

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Captain I received it I didn't participate

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in this launch right it was the

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brigadier for the session but in

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his second session so if there was it was between him

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the silver operation how did he

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with radio communication, the objectives were to

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the test, put the Clear

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because everyone  I said there nicknamed

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these things that were

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because we have the responsibility there was

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space it was Brazilian with the Navy about

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master Brazilian territorial water can help the Brazilian and the

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army the land security part

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well there was

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of people who had been hit by

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a light

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and who judged and had sucked blood

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of the people because really after

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we went to check there were some

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mainly women I don't know left

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a mark with their two needle leaves

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ok and one returned a brown stain

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as if it were an iodine burn

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people saying that they had been

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then and you had right away in fact

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the confirmations something like

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that happened no I'm going to tell you honestly

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I went to demystify it to

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say that this thing did not exist that it was

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something that was being seen that

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reflecting the moonlight

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could even imagine it was but I didn't

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went to see if it was really that

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how long did you have this confirmation I

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when I came back I would spend a week and

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come back at the weekend to live a  a

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little bit with the whole family

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yeah and I came back at the weekend and my

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answer

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nothing I think it's really very strange

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but I couldn't say what it was

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the places we could go at night we knew

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that the night before it appeared so

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we had a lot of information

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about that place so likely

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incidence It would be in that place that

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the place in the most  probable

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events

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person put a relationship

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the methodology to cure this and we

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always put the name of the person

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location time as it was discretion of

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type of descriptions that people gave

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more common

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materialization of the entire wall of the

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roof As well, she

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to speak I had left by helicopter

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arrived in necklaces I went to listen to a

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who  I had been burnt by that

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I really saw it she made me ready for the

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6th I had

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written chestnut marks

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and two stitches

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00:19:34,549 --> 00:19:32,419
it's perforated

285
00:19:36,830 --> 00:19:34,559
when we're talking to her

286
00:19:41,150 --> 00:19:36,840
she wrote that she was sitting in a hammock

287
00:19:44,570 --> 00:19:41,160
making a child sleep ok and

288
00:19:46,370 --> 00:19:44,580
suddenly the  The environment started to change in

289
00:19:48,010 --> 00:19:46,380
temperature it started to get a

290
00:19:51,130 --> 00:19:48,020
strange temperature

291
00:19:53,510 --> 00:19:51,140
she thought it was strange that it

292
00:19:55,990 --> 00:19:53,520
happened next

293
00:19:59,570 --> 00:19:56,000
she lying on the hammock saw that the roof tile

294
00:20:01,669 --> 00:19:59,580
started to turn red as if you

295
00:20:03,830 --> 00:20:01,679
had put a cigar on a

296
00:20:05,529 --> 00:20:03,840
sheet of paper it started to turn

297
00:20:08,570 --> 00:20:05,539
red then

298
00:20:10,789 --> 00:20:08,580
you could see  the sky

299
00:20:14,270 --> 00:20:10,799
the tile disappeared it

300
00:20:17,950 --> 00:20:14,280
was almost like a glass she could see the sky

301
00:20:21,710 --> 00:20:17,960
ok she was

302
00:20:23,090 --> 00:20:21,720
on the other side she was seeing the stars then i

303
00:20:25,190 --> 00:20:23,100
got more worried

304
00:20:27,049 --> 00:20:25,200
even more curious these people seem to be

305
00:20:31,010 --> 00:20:27,059
sincere and go down a hole she said

306
00:20:35,330 --> 00:20:31,020
that there came a  first green light

307
00:20:55,870 --> 00:20:35,340
that it became half numb and

308
00:21:03,610 --> 00:20:58,570
is the sky with

309
00:21:09,230 --> 00:21:05,930
two eighths to eight octaves

310
00:21:13,150 --> 00:21:09,240
completely full of clouds that

311
00:21:17,390 --> 00:21:13,160
day the sky was with eighths

312
00:21:19,690 --> 00:21:17,400
almost completely covered in the hole When I

313
00:21:21,830 --> 00:21:19,700
Leaving the house I was talking

314
00:21:23,870 --> 00:21:21,840
When I left the house I actually saw it

315
00:21:26,690 --> 00:21:23,880
go through a hole that the girl was

316
00:21:29,270 --> 00:21:26,700
counting, a light passed

317
00:21:33,110 --> 00:21:29,280
with reasonable speed it is not very

318
00:21:34,690 --> 00:21:33,120
fast and it blinked it blinked always oscillation

319
00:21:40,490 --> 00:21:34,700
of a second

320
00:21:43,149 --> 00:21:40,500
this blinking passed in the North direction

321
00:21:49,029 --> 00:21:47,149
could be even one  satellite until 8:30 at

322
00:21:52,430 --> 00:21:49,039
night still has sunlight even

323
00:21:54,049 --> 00:21:52,440
then and he could by some

324
00:21:57,590 --> 00:21:54,059
rotation movement of it something he is

325
00:22:00,350 --> 00:21:57,600
emitting that lubricant But that

326
00:22:02,630 --> 00:22:00,360
light came back right after it came back

327
00:22:04,850 --> 00:22:02,640
satellite doesn't come back it got even weirder

328
00:22:06,890 --> 00:22:04,860
but  I couldn't say that you did

329
00:22:08,210 --> 00:22:06,900
n't say the value I wasn't there

330
00:22:10,010 --> 00:22:08,220
to say that anything that

331
00:22:12,350 --> 00:22:10,020
appears you said you sent me I

332
00:22:15,310 --> 00:22:12,360
was clearing up this story that

333
00:22:29,950 --> 00:22:17,930
was some type of equipment that I

334
00:22:35,810 --> 00:22:33,590
is part  From the traffic control service,

335
00:22:40,250 --> 00:22:38,450
these attacks Colonel here are

336
00:22:42,289 --> 00:22:40,260
happening people who were already

337
00:22:44,930 --> 00:22:42,299
doing it a certain frequency they were

338
00:22:49,810 --> 00:22:44,940
communicated to the state government the

339
00:22:56,750 --> 00:22:54,230
ok sent by the government by the government

340
00:22:57,669 --> 00:22:56,760
they went there to look and examine people and

341
00:23:01,750 --> 00:22:57,679
then

342
00:23:05,149 --> 00:23:01,760
the parents confirmed the place burned and

343
00:23:08,830 --> 00:23:05,159
discouraged they took a statement from the patent

344
00:23:14,090 --> 00:23:11,049
the person recovered easily

345
00:23:18,310 --> 00:23:14,100
terrified sometimes he had to be

346
00:23:21,470 --> 00:23:18,320
nauseous numb for a few days

347
00:23:23,570 --> 00:23:21,480
a citizen once came to look for me he

348
00:23:25,669 --> 00:23:23,580
had near his house a woman had

349
00:23:28,149 --> 00:23:25,679
appeared  light like this but closer it's

350
00:23:35,049 --> 00:23:30,710
focused in his direction it was no longer

351
00:23:39,470 --> 00:23:37,789
he ran inside the house pointed there he

352
00:23:41,049 --> 00:23:39,480
took a shotgun and ready

353
00:23:45,830 --> 00:23:43,370
where does this light

354
00:23:48,830 --> 00:23:45,840
come from a stronger light he fell and got

355
00:23:54,730 --> 00:23:48,840
sick with  the 15 days with mobility problems

356
00:24:02,990 --> 00:23:57,909
anything of that nature just a

357
00:24:05,210 --> 00:24:03,000
light cut off the power and that stopped

358
00:24:07,730 --> 00:24:05,220
being federal movements of the

359
00:24:09,190 --> 00:24:07,740
federal government was retired with this kind

360
00:24:12,110 --> 00:24:09,200
of absurd thing is counting in the region i

361
00:24:24,830 --> 00:24:12,120
believe so but i know you i

362
00:24:29,570 --> 00:24:26,930
When did you have your

363
00:24:33,250 --> 00:24:29,580
first Grande

364
00:24:36,950 --> 00:24:35,450
we had information that on Ilha do

365
00:24:42,549 --> 00:24:36,960
Mosqueiro

366
00:24:48,710 --> 00:24:45,909
Balneário de Belém

367
00:24:51,289 --> 00:24:48,720
in Bahia do Sol things were happening in

368
00:24:56,950 --> 00:24:51,299
Bahia it is only very close to

369
00:25:02,169 --> 00:25:00,830
there is a TV channel  Laura, between Bahia do

370
00:25:06,230 --> 00:25:02,179
Sol, between

371
00:25:07,210 --> 00:25:06,240
Mosqueiro and Colares Island, you can almost

372
00:25:11,649 --> 00:25:07,220
see

373
00:25:24,130 --> 00:25:15,830
us as investigating everything and any

374
00:25:28,909 --> 00:25:27,350
under pressure from the agents who were

375
00:25:30,049 --> 00:25:28,919
closer than me to what

376
00:25:31,630 --> 00:25:30,059
was happening because when I

377
00:25:33,289 --> 00:25:31,640
arrived I already got it  the tram was walking

378
00:25:34,789 --> 00:25:33,299
there were days when I was in Brasilia

379
00:25:37,450 --> 00:25:34,799
When I came back they taught me this

380
00:25:39,789 --> 00:25:37,460
lesson okay

381
00:25:43,970 --> 00:25:39,799
captain

382
00:25:46,070 --> 00:25:43,980
you don't believe it not for me not for

383
00:25:48,409 --> 00:25:46,080
me something I still need to

384
00:25:51,110 --> 00:25:48,419
know what it is to say to you who have

385
00:25:52,610 --> 00:25:51,120
never seen this

386
00:25:58,730 --> 00:25:52,620
I never

387
00:26:02,149 --> 00:26:00,590
I'm satisfied I'm seeing

388
00:26:04,490 --> 00:26:02,159
strange things but I can't say

389
00:26:04,500 --> 00:26:10,269
his Rio is

390
00:26:14,470 --> 00:26:12,950
if I don't want this thing to go

391
00:26:17,810 --> 00:26:14,480
around on top of the Lord

392
00:26:20,330 --> 00:26:17,820
Turn on the Light do everything take a

393
00:26:21,130 --> 00:26:20,340
little walk on top of it a walk just to  if

394
00:26:23,409 --> 00:26:21,140
youbelieve it

395
00:26:28,210 --> 00:26:23,419
would be interesting this is

396
00:26:47,049 --> 00:26:30,649
could be an owl it could guess that

397
00:26:55,909 --> 00:26:52,330
a light appeared ok It came

398
00:27:02,049 --> 00:26:55,919
from us

399
00:27:07,970 --> 00:27:04,909
and really when it arrived It will be defense

400
00:27:10,870 --> 00:27:07,980
and made a cycle around then it was

401
00:27:10,870 --> 00:27:13,330
although then I got [ __ ] from the sergeant's gang

402
00:27:13,340 --> 00:27:52,370
that I don't know yet I have

403
00:27:55,970 --> 00:27:54,350
n't seen anything when he took the

404
00:27:57,909 --> 00:27:55,980
negative there was nothing several times it

405
00:28:02,289 --> 00:27:57,919
happened

406
00:28:05,690 --> 00:28:02,299
think coincidence doesn't exist but then it

407
00:28:08,090 --> 00:28:05,700
was an unusual fact I was analyzing

408
00:28:11,230 --> 00:28:08,100
and very sad very upset because I

409
00:28:13,970 --> 00:28:11,240
couldn't print those images

410
00:28:17,169 --> 00:28:13,980
in the photographic induction

411
00:28:21,190 --> 00:28:17,179
and mine on my table had a

412
00:28:23,750 --> 00:28:21,200
flashlight that I used Jungle operations

413
00:28:25,310 --> 00:28:23,760
it was there I don't even know why because maybe

414
00:28:28,909 --> 00:28:25,320
he had a review of

415
00:28:30,890 --> 00:28:28,919
Jungle equipment doing maintenance on it and I love the  the

416
00:28:39,769 --> 00:28:30,900
flashlight was on top of my table I

417
00:28:44,810 --> 00:28:42,049
I noticed that the flashlight had it there

418
00:28:45,669 --> 00:28:44,820
at one end it had a normal earth

419
00:28:51,730 --> 00:28:49,190
at the other end the other account it

420
00:28:54,669 --> 00:28:51,740
had a red cover

421
00:29:00,970 --> 00:28:54,679
for Intelbras signaling

422
00:29:09,430 --> 00:29:04,090
it had a

423
00:29:13,510 --> 00:29:12,350
I looked  that and I remembered that the

424
00:29:17,750 --> 00:29:13,520
doctors

425
00:29:22,370 --> 00:29:17,760
examine the radiographs in the radioscope

426
00:29:26,169 --> 00:29:22,380
which is an opaque frame with light behind it and

427
00:29:29,230 --> 00:29:26,179
they put the

428
00:29:39,850 --> 00:29:29,240
radiographic plate there to examine and to

429
00:29:46,850 --> 00:29:42,250
but I took a

430
00:29:49,690 --> 00:29:46,860
film tape and put it

431
00:29:52,450 --> 00:29:49,700
and I noticed that there was a  point

432
00:29:55,370 --> 00:29:52,460
there was an object I wasn't looking for

433
00:29:57,830 --> 00:29:55,380
any mask bring an object I

434
00:30:01,909 --> 00:29:57,840
was looking for light Luis

435
00:30:04,549 --> 00:30:01,919
I noticed that there really was a

436
00:30:08,169 --> 00:30:04,559
little cylinder throughout the film there was

437
00:30:11,630 --> 00:30:08,179
that cylinder So I had

438
00:30:14,330 --> 00:30:11,640
managed to print the solid part

439
00:30:17,750 --> 00:30:14,340
of that agitation and not the light for that

440
00:30:20,149 --> 00:30:17,760
matter  of wave length I don't

441
00:30:24,710 --> 00:30:20,159
know why the light didn't impress me

442
00:30:27,350 --> 00:30:24,720
that film but the solid part the probe

443
00:30:30,649 --> 00:30:27,360
later we came to the conclusion that it would be

444
00:30:32,630 --> 00:30:30,659
a probe it was a cylinder that was

445
00:30:36,669 --> 00:30:32,640
printed there it's not looking it's

446
00:30:36,679 --> 00:30:43,570
right

447
00:30:43,580 --> 00:30:50,529
how many photos of

448
00:30:50,539 --> 00:30:54,370
cataloged

449
00:30:58,909 --> 00:30:56,810
a lot  sad because those

450
00:31:00,710 --> 00:30:58,919
film hills were in front of me I kept

451
00:31:03,350 --> 00:31:00,720
looking for almost two months of work

452
00:31:05,990 --> 00:31:03,360
and I didn't get anything we didn't get any on that

453
00:31:09,350 --> 00:31:06,000
I was looking to see what I had seen in

454
00:31:10,909 --> 00:31:09,360
the negative that I had seen it

455
00:31:14,630 --> 00:31:10,919
didn't appear

456
00:31:17,690 --> 00:31:14,640
so then we went to look  out of

457
00:31:20,570 --> 00:31:17,700
curiosity and we passed there we went to expand

458
00:31:23,889 --> 00:31:20,580
to Santa Laboratório to expand that

459
00:31:30,889 --> 00:31:28,490
and after we were having

460
00:31:34,730 --> 00:31:30,899
difficulty in this photographic technical part

461
00:31:36,950 --> 00:31:34,740
I had a brother in

462
00:31:39,590 --> 00:31:36,960
Freemasonry called Milton Mendonça,

463
00:31:43,330 --> 00:31:39,600
he has passed away he was a cameraman for TV

464
00:31:49,190 --> 00:31:46,190
I asked for his help because  I trusted him, I

465
00:31:52,029 --> 00:31:49,200
knew that he was participating in the operations, he was

466
00:31:55,070 --> 00:31:52,039
n't going to talk to anyone, I was

467
00:31:57,470 --> 00:31:55,080
absolutely sure that the matter would

468
00:31:57,470 --> 00:32:01,610
be restricted to our group.

469
00:32:27,690 --> 00:32:09,470
Milton sometimes had

470
00:32:27,700 --> 00:32:31,810
[Music]

471
00:32:38,149 --> 00:32:34,130
and other ways that we didn't even

472
00:32:40,510 --> 00:32:38,159
imagine could impress me

473
00:32:40,510 --> 00:32:46,210
with these emotions.  he

474
00:33:01,310 --> 00:32:58,190
also died, pay the American that was

475
00:33:03,110 --> 00:33:01,320
the stage there in Colares he was talking about a

476
00:33:05,330 --> 00:33:03,120
probe that he had seen several times

477
00:33:08,409 --> 00:33:05,340
it was like it was and more or less the

478
00:33:11,090 --> 00:33:08,419
size of a 200 liter oil flavor

479
00:33:13,850 --> 00:33:11,100
this water with irregular goal it didn't

480
00:33:18,529 --> 00:33:13,860
have a flight  sure it goes as if it

481
00:33:25,909 --> 00:33:22,610
and sometimes it walked one or two together leave

482
00:33:28,789 --> 00:33:25,919
from where and go to where suddenly

483
00:33:34,570 --> 00:33:28,799
I divert the light and it comes on top

484
00:33:39,950 --> 00:33:38,210
in relation to what you are doing and the

485
00:33:42,409 --> 00:33:39,960
arm phenomenon some kind of reaction from the

486
00:33:43,310 --> 00:33:42,419
phenomenon in relation to a very

487
00:33:44,750 --> 00:33:43,320
strange thing this question is very

488
00:33:48,490 --> 00:33:44,760
interesting

489
00:33:51,830 --> 00:33:48,500
they seemed to us that there was absolute

490
00:33:53,570 --> 00:33:51,840
they did not look for them they were on top

491
00:33:55,549 --> 00:33:53,580
of us

492
00:33:59,389 --> 00:33:55,559
some after some time we

493
00:34:03,409 --> 00:33:59,399
were there let's say after a

494
00:34:04,730 --> 00:34:03,419
month things were on top of the team already  he

495
00:34:06,230 --> 00:34:04,740
was on top of us he knew

496
00:34:08,930 --> 00:34:06,240
what we were doing you could

497
00:34:10,250 --> 00:34:08,940
move here and go to another place there

498
00:34:12,109 --> 00:34:10,260
that

499
00:34:14,210 --> 00:34:12,119
as if he was aware of our

500
00:34:16,190 --> 00:34:14,220
movement we know with certainty where

501
00:34:17,270 --> 00:34:16,200
they were and what they were doing and

502
00:34:19,909 --> 00:34:17,280
what they are doing for  For example, this case

503
00:34:22,369 --> 00:34:19,919
that I installed in Baía do Sol at that

504
00:34:25,369 --> 00:34:22,379
time People are already finishing school and

505
00:34:26,770 --> 00:34:25,379
then there are a lot of people on the beach, right at

506
00:34:31,369 --> 00:34:26,780
night the people

507
00:34:35,230 --> 00:34:31,379
young people dating and let's

508
00:34:35,240 --> 00:34:41,169
on the weekend

509
00:34:41,179 --> 00:34:48,369
this curve that made  on top It was where

510
00:34:53,710 --> 00:34:51,310
we had stayed there now

511
00:34:56,710 --> 00:34:53,720
I am the first big event

512
00:34:59,690 --> 00:34:56,720
at the first wedding

513
00:35:02,349 --> 00:34:59,700
and then what they did I ran back

514
00:35:04,990 --> 00:35:02,359
to base

515
00:35:07,130 --> 00:35:05,000
until morning the next day

516
00:35:08,750 --> 00:35:07,140
I talked to my commander Look at the

517
00:35:15,950 --> 00:35:08,760
first thing he asked every time

518
00:35:19,970 --> 00:35:18,230
Did you have any reaction in your organism

519
00:35:23,390 --> 00:35:19,980
any problem resulting from that

520
00:35:25,510 --> 00:35:23,400
observation at that exact moment no what

521
00:35:28,670 --> 00:35:25,520
we noticed is that we all lose over

522
00:35:29,650 --> 00:35:28,680
time we don't have to lose

523
00:35:32,990 --> 00:35:29,660
visual care

524
00:35:35,829 --> 00:35:33,000
the glasses of one living being the other

525
00:35:40,670 --> 00:35:35,839
I could see very well at

526
00:35:42,650 --> 00:35:40,680
that time I was 77 I was 37

527
00:35:44,750 --> 00:35:42,660
soon after we started to need

528
00:35:46,190 --> 00:35:44,760
glasses for all of the team but this is

529
00:35:49,010 --> 00:35:46,200
due to other Exhibitions that we

530
00:35:50,810 --> 00:35:49,020
had later on Coronel

531
00:35:53,750 --> 00:35:50,820
then an example of this that was

532
00:35:56,690 --> 00:35:53,760
repeated several times I  I know you

533
00:35:59,569 --> 00:35:56,700
would make a complete report If we

534
00:36:01,370 --> 00:35:59,579
submit some type of exam anyway what was the

535
00:36:03,829 --> 00:36:01,380
forwarding this

536
00:36:05,230 --> 00:36:03,839
report was made a report of the

537
00:36:09,829 --> 00:36:05,240
event

538
00:36:13,930 --> 00:36:12,349
you have geographic coordinates everything

539
00:36:19,089 --> 00:36:13,940
is right okay

540
00:36:22,690 --> 00:36:19,099
mapping of the region and

541
00:36:26,210 --> 00:36:22,700
more personal examination and  we are not

542
00:36:32,230 --> 00:36:26,220
we are always people trusted by the

543
00:36:36,349 --> 00:36:34,790
and the commander when he received the news

544
00:36:39,770 --> 00:36:36,359
that something had also happened

545
00:36:42,650 --> 00:36:39,780
and he was convinced what he How

546
00:36:48,109 --> 00:36:42,660
he reacted he was more satisfied but I

547
00:36:52,310 --> 00:36:50,329
you commented on this fact with  someone outside

548
00:36:56,890 --> 00:36:52,320
the base outside the practical operation of

549
00:37:02,510 --> 00:36:59,710
would start with her

550
00:37:12,589 --> 00:37:02,520
but outside of that, not and always ask for

551
00:37:15,770 --> 00:37:14,030
my family is very well known the

552
00:37:17,410 --> 00:37:15,780
reality of Mosqueiro ah your brother

553
00:37:24,010 --> 00:37:17,420
was there

554
00:37:29,810 --> 00:37:27,349
these factors repeating  new

555
00:37:35,890 --> 00:37:29,820
big observations but do you

556
00:37:35,900 --> 00:37:41,890
had been a very favorable place

557
00:37:48,190 --> 00:37:44,990
Only with much more frequent much more

558
00:37:50,510 --> 00:37:48,200
assiduity we have friends

559
00:37:52,870 --> 00:37:50,520
at the National information service

560
00:37:55,089 --> 00:37:52,880
smi ok we

561
00:37:57,530 --> 00:37:55,099
prefer it has nothing to do with that

562
00:38:00,730 --> 00:37:57,540
don't worry that's a matter of the

563
00:38:05,930 --> 00:38:00,740
Air Force but the guys were in this

564
00:38:08,270 --> 00:38:05,940
acquaintance I was curious to see

565
00:38:10,089 --> 00:38:08,280
this a lot in the newspaper Everyone must have

566
00:38:12,950 --> 00:38:10,099
commented

567
00:38:19,210 --> 00:38:12,960
from morning to night that there was an

568
00:38:30,010 --> 00:38:22,510
knew I

569
00:38:34,670 --> 00:38:32,990
but I didn't know  what we didn't know about the

570
00:38:37,849 --> 00:38:34,680
result What we were doing we

571
00:38:40,550 --> 00:38:37,859
knew he was looking they asked

572
00:38:42,950 --> 00:38:40,560
to go to an operation like this with us as

573
00:38:44,050 --> 00:38:42,960
it was close to Belém They could see it

574
00:38:46,970 --> 00:38:44,060
too

575
00:38:49,970 --> 00:38:46,980
no problem no

576
00:38:53,329 --> 00:38:49,980
but ask your boss for the

577
00:38:54,589 --> 00:38:53,339
head of the service  National

578
00:38:55,329 --> 00:38:54,599
information at the time of the Air Force

579
00:39:00,670 --> 00:38:55,339
also

580
00:39:07,190 --> 00:39:05,510
but it wasn't an smi operation it was mere

581
00:39:10,150 --> 00:39:07,200
curiosity with any other

582
00:39:13,069 --> 00:39:10,160
citizen who could have

583
00:39:15,829 --> 00:39:13,079
and that doesn't see with the team they

584
00:39:17,750 --> 00:39:15,839
knew here was doing a

585
00:39:20,390 --> 00:39:17,760
serious job

586
00:39:22,790 --> 00:39:20,400
I was in places that already from

587
00:39:25,310 --> 00:39:22,800
experience were  the most likely then would

588
00:39:28,430 --> 00:39:25,320
not have any chance of

589
00:39:31,790 --> 00:39:28,440
losing it being a long time

590
00:39:34,190 --> 00:39:31,800
dangerous I marked it was interesting

591
00:39:36,770 --> 00:39:34,200
that my son had asked to buy

592
00:39:38,329 --> 00:39:36,780
a small Christmas tree that was set up

593
00:39:40,970 --> 00:39:38,339
big at home but they wanted for

594
00:39:42,770 --> 00:39:40,980
them not a little child's thing and

595
00:39:44,750 --> 00:39:42,780
I went to get this one  I had to look for

596
00:40:01,990 --> 00:39:44,760
this Christmas tree in the supermarket,

597
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:13,730
the TV Liberal cameraman

598
00:40:18,890 --> 00:40:15,950
there, authorized, he had

599
00:40:18,900 --> 00:40:26,810
photographic knowledge

600
00:40:35,829 --> 00:40:30,829
and we stayed in the reserved dark place,

601
00:40:40,150 --> 00:40:38,690
come back earlier, you

602
00:40:42,349 --> 00:40:40,160
have to understand at 8 o'clock

603
00:40:44,210 --> 00:40:42,359
because I'm going to get it  my children and I will

604
00:40:46,430 --> 00:40:44,220
bear to do the Taurus of the purchase of the

605
00:40:50,230 --> 00:40:46,440
Christmas Tree

606
00:40:54,589 --> 00:40:50,240
6:30 am more or less passed very high pass

607
00:40:58,390 --> 00:40:54,599
three Luminous points aligned

608
00:41:01,250 --> 00:40:58,400
very high and the great speed

609
00:41:03,950 --> 00:41:01,260
air force speed meet airplane

610
00:41:06,410 --> 00:41:03,960
is greater than the speed of an airplane

611
00:41:11,569 --> 00:41:08,109
was flying very high in the direction

612
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:11,579
west east that is in the Cordillera of the

613
00:41:14,829 --> 00:41:13,450
years to the Atlantic

614
00:41:17,750 --> 00:41:14,839
[Music]

615
00:41:19,450 --> 00:41:17,760
it is very high they passed three a

616
00:41:25,089 --> 00:41:19,460
very high speed

617
00:41:33,290 --> 00:41:31,030
from the North region to the south that is from

618
00:41:36,170 --> 00:41:33,300
California Triangle  from Bermuda to

619
00:41:39,710 --> 00:41:36,180
Brasilia in that direction more or less

620
00:41:42,470 --> 00:41:39,720
two objects passed two lights

621
00:41:43,150 --> 00:41:42,480
flashing aligned also one after the

622
00:41:45,970 --> 00:41:43,160
other they

623
00:41:49,370 --> 00:41:45,980
passed in a north-south direction

624
00:41:51,710 --> 00:41:49,380
Wait a little longer we started there the

625
00:41:54,290 --> 00:41:51,720
people arriving

626
00:41:57,950 --> 00:41:54,300
these friends did not arrive I could not

627
00:41:57,950 --> 00:41:59,410
wait so we started to dismantle

628
00:42:05,329 --> 00:42:01,510
keep the equipment

629
00:42:06,650 --> 00:42:05,339
in the boxes and put it in the car when it

630
00:42:15,490 --> 00:42:09,470
arrives and they asked I even played with

631
00:42:22,329 --> 00:42:19,510
on the way out and such a traffic thing

632
00:42:24,530 --> 00:42:22,339
asked a stupid question it

633
00:42:27,410 --> 00:42:24,540
passed now if you were here

634
00:42:31,750 --> 00:42:27,420
with me 6:30 passed very loudly but

635
00:42:34,329 --> 00:42:31,760
you would have seen it and even  7 o'clock

636
00:42:36,130 --> 00:42:34,339
again

637
00:42:39,109 --> 00:42:36,140
but

638
00:42:41,089 --> 00:42:39,119
now I'm leaving then he asked

639
00:42:42,390 --> 00:42:41,099
what time is it another one I don't

640
00:42:47,650 --> 00:42:42,400
know it's not good [

641
00:42:53,589 --> 00:42:49,490
stay here with my son for the whole night

642
00:42:58,730 --> 00:42:55,370
but when we are talking about

643
00:43:01,370 --> 00:42:58,740
this one of them said look here  up

644
00:43:03,770 --> 00:43:01,380
Look up we looked up

645
00:43:05,690 --> 00:43:03,780
there the Brazilian hero trembled in his pants

646
00:43:10,510 --> 00:43:05,700
because I looked there was a huge thing on

647
00:43:13,370 --> 00:43:10,520
top of us a dark black disk

648
00:43:16,609 --> 00:43:13,380
stopped on top of us it wasn't more

649
00:43:18,890 --> 00:43:16,619
than 150 meters high

650
00:43:21,910 --> 00:43:18,900
it's standing over where we are

651
00:43:29,210 --> 00:43:21,920
we had lights there wasn't a light

652
00:43:33,069 --> 00:43:29,220
in the middle the yellow one for both okay and making

653
00:43:41,170 --> 00:43:36,530
air conditioning and sometimes

654
00:43:45,109 --> 00:43:43,370
making a noise like a

655
00:43:47,770 --> 00:43:45,119
bicycle ratchet As if pedaling backwards

656
00:43:53,809 --> 00:43:51,349
with that light on  medium but a

657
00:43:59,230 --> 00:43:53,819
very big thing I believe about 30

658
00:44:08,089 --> 00:44:01,970
and it started and soon after it started to

659
00:44:14,150 --> 00:44:11,030
very strong he did this he repeated this at

660
00:44:16,690 --> 00:44:14,160
short intervals five more times What

661
00:44:20,290 --> 00:44:16,700
was the reaction of the people really

662
00:44:25,730 --> 00:44:23,329
I had never seen this I had already seen this almost

663
00:44:28,569 --> 00:44:25,740
twice in this story and it had never

664
00:44:32,450 --> 00:44:28,579
appeared like this to see

665
00:44:34,730 --> 00:44:32,460
what time there was no idea to open the car

666
00:44:39,430 --> 00:44:34,740
to assemble the machine that there was no

667
00:44:45,010 --> 00:44:41,349
this thing

668
00:44:47,829 --> 00:44:45,020
illuminated that light of the  the yellow one

669
00:44:51,890 --> 00:44:47,839
went out lit up again

670
00:44:54,589 --> 00:44:51,900
throbbing this the interval two seconds

671
00:45:03,250 --> 00:44:54,599
when they turned off the second after the 3

672
00:45:09,730 --> 00:45:07,069
it was growing then coming back the same

673
00:45:13,730 --> 00:45:12,290
on top of us he's standing on top

674
00:45:15,290 --> 00:45:13,740
of us in such a dark place no one

675
00:45:17,349 --> 00:45:15,300
knew he was

676
00:45:20,930 --> 00:45:17,359
there  voice

677
00:45:24,770 --> 00:45:20,940
now I know that you will only see it among other

678
00:45:27,410 --> 00:45:24,780
teams and other government agencies no what

679
00:45:28,910 --> 00:45:27,420
I know is that there was a

680
00:45:33,950 --> 00:45:28,920
leak of

681
00:45:42,710 --> 00:45:40,130
I believe that the focus of this was on the

682
00:45:45,589 --> 00:45:42,720
aero club ok

683
00:45:47,809 --> 00:45:45,599
and we are already from Belém de Belém and  a

684
00:45:50,390 --> 00:45:47,819
team from a newspaper at the time I don't know if it

685
00:45:52,970 --> 00:45:50,400
exists I think it was bought by

686
00:45:55,490 --> 00:45:52,980
Jota who was from the state of Pará

687
00:45:57,890 --> 00:45:55,500
the team from the state of Pará went to the

688
00:46:13,430 --> 00:45:57,900
place where we were going They were a

689
00:46:17,510 --> 00:46:15,650
there I swore that never  would do a

690
00:46:20,390 --> 00:46:17,520
mission like this what

691
00:46:23,030 --> 00:46:20,400
happened they saw the light

692
00:46:24,890 --> 00:46:23,040
approaching this light came very low

693
00:46:26,990 --> 00:46:24,900
entered this channel that I told

694
00:46:29,329 --> 00:46:27,000
you about which is between Mara Island and

695
00:46:29,890 --> 00:46:29,339
Monastery Island And then he from Colares to

696
00:46:31,370 --> 00:46:29,900
Laura's channel

697
00:46:38,270 --> 00:46:31,380
[  Music]

698
00:46:43,930 --> 00:46:42,349
this light Directed towards him towards him

699
00:46:50,270 --> 00:46:47,450
focused on him he was in the car the

700
00:46:52,970 --> 00:46:50,280
roof of the car became translucent

701
00:46:53,950 --> 00:46:52,980
transparent also like

702
00:46:58,190 --> 00:46:53,960
glass

703
00:47:00,650 --> 00:46:58,200
they were seeing the sky

704
00:47:04,670 --> 00:47:00,660
he made the evolution on top passed stopped

705
00:47:10,150 --> 00:47:08,210
they photographed it

706
00:47:18,790 --> 00:47:10,160
but it wasn't publican it

707
00:47:24,849 --> 00:47:21,410
and after the SUS they took it some

708
00:47:27,309 --> 00:47:24,859
seem even had access to volleyball

709
00:47:31,670 --> 00:47:27,319
some got emotionally out of control

710
00:47:34,130 --> 00:47:31,680
to get the missing car they left

711
00:47:36,130 --> 00:47:34,140
the next day the days after

712
00:47:39,230 --> 00:47:36,140
we're published in  newspaper

713
00:47:40,670 --> 00:47:39,240
The reportage

714
00:47:44,089 --> 00:47:40,680
who can give information about this

715
00:47:44,099 --> 00:47:57,950
of meeting at the airport

716
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:03,670
[Music]

717
00:48:09,849 --> 00:48:07,849
anyway, at some point in the

718
00:48:12,230 --> 00:48:09,859
practical operation you

719
00:48:14,150 --> 00:48:12,240
were all the time sending a report of what

720
00:48:16,309 --> 00:48:14,160
happened there to the boss, right, but it is

721
00:48:18,470 --> 00:48:16,319
a moment that you asked if

722
00:48:20,569 --> 00:48:18,480
there was a possibility of informing the

723
00:48:22,910 --> 00:48:20,579
population about this

724
00:48:24,670 --> 00:48:22,920
no this question was not asked because

725
00:48:24,670 --> 00:48:26,770
he knew it was not possible

726
00:48:31,750 --> 00:48:29,510
this question would not be appropriate to the command because

727
00:48:34,309 --> 00:48:31,760
this was a matter to

728
00:48:36,829 --> 00:48:34,319
collect data and deliver it to the Commander

729
00:48:39,950 --> 00:48:36,839
this was treated confidentially

730
00:48:42,829 --> 00:48:39,960
this was that we have to collect data

731
00:49:12,210 --> 00:48:42,839
document photograph that the  Milestones

732
00:50:04,089 --> 00:49:23,470
[Music]

733
00:50:10,030 --> 00:50:07,250
and at some point there was the participation

734
00:50:11,230 --> 00:50:10,040
of Americans asking for information

735
00:50:14,450 --> 00:50:11,240
[Music]

736
00:50:31,210 --> 00:50:14,460
listening to Brazil to accompany

737
00:50:38,829 --> 00:50:34,329
very active

738
00:50:44,050 --> 00:50:38,839
you detected various types of objects

739
00:50:51,849 --> 00:50:48,109
verify at least nine forms,

740
00:50:59,230 --> 00:50:55,690
classify them as

741
00:51:03,470 --> 00:50:59,240
forms of analysis, some were probes,

742
00:51:07,630 --> 00:51:03,480
some photographs looked like a

743
00:51:07,630 --> 00:51:10,490
larger ship and nothing smaller coming out of it.

744
00:51:17,569 --> 00:51:15,650
Spaceships or

745
00:51:19,420 --> 00:51:17,579
smaller probes this was documented

746
00:51:21,370 --> 00:51:19,430
photographically

747
00:51:24,109 --> 00:51:21,380
[Music]

748
00:51:26,210 --> 00:51:24,119
the equipment used to

749
00:51:30,069 --> 00:51:26,220
record all the materials

750
00:51:30,079 --> 00:51:36,010
professional camera

751
00:51:40,809 --> 00:51:38,390
to work with it

752
00:51:42,370 --> 00:51:40,819
because it quickly takes out of focus

753
00:51:45,950 --> 00:51:42,380
any

754
00:51:48,670 --> 00:51:45,960
movement already went out of focus it was a terror it

755
00:51:50,589 --> 00:51:48,680
was a huge mess it

756
00:51:53,450 --> 00:51:50,599
leaves it that big

757
00:51:55,089 --> 00:51:53,460
we couldn't operate much

758
00:52:03,170 --> 00:51:55,099
with it not

759
00:52:08,109 --> 00:52:05,510
to record the versions of possibilities

760
00:52:23,049 --> 00:52:08,119
of some noise something

761
00:52:28,549 --> 00:52:25,270
nothing of

762
00:52:31,069 --> 00:52:28,559
that nature could happen

763
00:52:32,150 --> 00:52:31,079
anything but we were in a

764
00:52:33,950 --> 00:52:32,160
military alteration it is a military obligation

765
00:52:39,010 --> 00:52:37,190
if it happened it happened on duty if

766
00:52:47,270 --> 00:52:39,020
we were not at

767
00:52:53,170 --> 00:52:49,990
never we were armed it didn't matter it didn't matter

768
00:52:56,510 --> 00:52:53,180
I didn't expect it to be

769
00:52:59,990 --> 00:52:56,520
so much needed that it had never been

770
00:53:05,589 --> 00:53:00,000
thought of setting up the operation in the

771
00:53:10,569 --> 00:53:09,049
was never thought of a weapon in that there were

772
00:53:14,870 --> 00:53:10,579
some expectations in  at some point

773
00:53:17,990 --> 00:53:14,880
within the operation that will be

774
00:53:19,849 --> 00:53:18,000
dangerous in objective terms

775
00:53:19,849 --> 00:53:22,270
once there

776
00:53:27,010 --> 00:53:25,450
was a very

777
00:53:30,470 --> 00:53:27,020
strong

778
00:53:33,410 --> 00:53:30,480
appearance and you have to detail

779
00:53:36,170 --> 00:53:33,420
how it was but really this thing

780
00:53:39,490 --> 00:53:36,180
happened and I was very afraid that

781
00:53:41,770 --> 00:53:39,500
there would be an addition how was that

782
00:53:46,870 --> 00:53:41,780
Just to make you a relative

783
00:53:55,670 --> 00:53:51,650
talking to Rafael right on hard

784
00:53:59,270 --> 00:53:55,680
Rafael gave me a tremendous amount of pain in the husband

785
00:54:02,450 --> 00:53:59,280
called me crazy responsible

786
00:54:04,010 --> 00:54:02,460
okay and said if you're forbidden you have a

787
00:54:05,510 --> 00:54:04,020
commander but I'm your friend

788
00:54:10,270 --> 00:54:05,520
I'm forbidden to do one  something like

789
00:54:17,780 --> 00:54:12,710
riverside vessel and the thing stopped in front

790
00:54:17,790 --> 00:54:56,690
[Music] he

791
00:55:02,089 --> 00:54:59,470
did it he

792
00:55:04,430 --> 00:55:02,099
heard about a case he knew that I was there the

793
00:55:07,069 --> 00:55:04,440
whole air force knew

794
00:55:10,790 --> 00:55:07,079
that we were in this investigation he

795
00:55:12,130 --> 00:55:10,800
about a case  From a boy who worked

796
00:55:16,190 --> 00:55:12,140
with

797
00:55:21,230 --> 00:55:16,200
him he collected clay for this pottery,

798
00:55:23,870 --> 00:55:21,240
he took clay there in Rio for this

799
00:55:25,849 --> 00:55:23,880
pottery and he found out about the case that happened

800
00:55:27,890 --> 00:55:25,859
to this boy and he knew that I was

801
00:55:40,210 --> 00:55:27,900
investigating and I went to look for myself and

802
00:55:46,549 --> 00:55:43,370
he told me  About this Luís I sent

803
00:55:48,109 --> 00:55:46,559
for Luiz but he is an agent there with a

804
00:55:53,809 --> 00:55:48,119
car with Luiz I wanted to talk to

805
00:56:02,809 --> 00:55:58,930
he when she was picking Barros he saw

806
00:56:06,530 --> 00:56:02,819
traces that there was game

807
00:56:08,210 --> 00:56:06,540
eating the rest of flowers a tree that

808
00:56:11,630 --> 00:56:08,220
was in  flowering

809
00:56:16,450 --> 00:56:11,640
is on the riverbank he followed and saw

810
00:56:16,460 --> 00:56:20,589
had a knife eating in this place I

811
00:56:35,170 --> 00:56:23,450
'm going back to get that part I'm going to

812
00:56:39,170 --> 00:56:36,370
[Music]

813
00:56:40,490 --> 00:56:39,180
he went and left the clay there emptied the

814
00:56:42,170 --> 00:56:40,500
vessel

815
00:56:44,990 --> 00:56:42,180
went by his house picked it up  a

816
00:56:48,309 --> 00:56:45,000
shotgun and went back there during the day he

817
00:56:52,910 --> 00:56:48,319
prepared a Jirau where he could stay in

818
00:56:59,690 --> 00:56:55,150
and kept the shotgun flashlight there

819
00:57:03,829 --> 00:57:01,910
dark he was up there in

820
00:57:06,370 --> 00:57:03,839
Geraldo sitting in his hammock there

821
00:57:08,049 --> 00:57:06,380
waiting he heard some noise

822
00:57:15,770 --> 00:57:12,069
preparing to shoot at the house

823
00:57:18,170 --> 00:57:15,780
a very strong light passed over him the

824
00:57:21,770 --> 00:57:18,180
light passed shortly after it came back and stopped

825
00:57:25,190 --> 00:57:21,780
over him It stopped over the center

826
00:57:27,250 --> 00:57:25,200
of this ship that he wrote and it

827
00:57:29,990 --> 00:57:27,260
was not in a discordant way it

828
00:57:32,770 --> 00:57:30,000
was not in a way as if it were the cabin  of

829
00:57:36,190 --> 00:57:32,780
a bath when he makes

830
00:57:39,530 --> 00:57:36,200
the bulge inside the belly of this ship

831
00:57:41,450 --> 00:57:39,540
opened a door and descended a

832
00:57:45,849 --> 00:57:41,460
human-like being I

833
00:57:49,309 --> 00:57:45,859
asked him if by stairway

834
00:57:53,349 --> 00:57:49,319
or mental something like that they descended

835
00:57:53,359 --> 00:57:58,690
open focus like that

836
00:57:58,700 --> 00:58:05,030
when he approached

837
00:58:10,970 --> 00:58:07,670
he jumped from there where  he was and hid

838
00:58:15,370 --> 00:58:14,150
and watched he put a branch a

839
00:58:19,670 --> 00:58:18,230
tree branch on his face

840
00:58:21,130 --> 00:58:19,680
and watched what was

841
00:58:27,670 --> 00:58:21,140
happening he

842
00:58:32,589 --> 00:58:29,690
it was something that maybe had been

843
00:58:36,530 --> 00:58:32,599
done here in Palma then

844
00:58:38,870 --> 00:58:36,540
he went down examined the net  he examined

845
00:58:40,390 --> 00:58:38,880
the place where he was he has a

846
00:58:44,109 --> 00:58:40,400
leaf branch in front of him man

847
00:58:56,510 --> 00:58:47,890
later he didn't look for it he didn't

848
00:58:59,589 --> 00:58:57,710
[Music]

849
00:59:03,910 --> 00:58:59,599
when he saw that he had been

850
00:59:07,250 --> 00:59:03,920
located he ran he ran inside

851
00:59:11,809 --> 00:59:07,260
the river there suffers a lot suffers a lot no

852
00:59:14,210 --> 00:59:11,819
I know from Maré he passes and goes up a

853
00:59:14,660 --> 00:59:14,220
mud three he left over there on that

854
00:59:20,790 --> 00:59:14,670
bank

855
00:59:26,510 --> 00:59:23,470
Music]

856
00:59:30,650 --> 00:59:26,520
you came back to

857
00:59:32,750 --> 00:59:30,660
us started to get in the face of Rio

858
00:59:37,870 --> 00:59:32,760
and chase him at low speed

859
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:42,470
a few times

860
00:59:46,609 --> 00:59:44,690
and following but  very slowly he's having

861
00:59:49,490 --> 00:59:46,619
trouble walking

862
00:59:51,170 --> 00:59:49,500
like he intended to hunt and come back

863
00:59:52,710 --> 00:59:51,180
he didn't take a boat because if it's not

864
00:59:58,990 --> 00:59:52,720
enough to want to run aground

865
01:00:03,650 --> 01:00:01,510
a 9-year-old boy at the time

866
01:00:06,970 --> 01:00:03,660
had a friend of his who took

867
01:00:11,089 --> 01:00:06,980
care of the bar and they stayed  fishing

868
01:00:13,250 --> 01:00:11,099
this river is catching

869
01:00:15,650 --> 01:00:13,260
and the guy was listening with the radio to the

870
01:00:26,390 --> 01:00:15,660
brazilian championship game football games

871
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:31,750
and this thing behind him

872
01:00:35,809 --> 01:00:34,309
started screaming desperately until a

873
01:00:39,530 --> 01:00:35,819
boy called his partner's attention

874
01:00:49,270 --> 01:00:39,540
and the guy put the football down and looked

875
01:00:55,670 --> 01:00:52,370
as there was no more companion on the boat

876
01:00:58,069 --> 01:00:55,680
and he hid there they

877
01:01:00,760 --> 01:00:58,079
were both in the water and

878
01:01:01,970 --> 01:01:00,770
Luiz hiding in the bush

879
01:01:05,870 --> 01:01:01,980
[Music]

880
01:01:07,309 --> 01:01:05,880
they this this ship It stopped on top of the

881
01:01:09,849 --> 01:01:07,319
battalion

882
01:01:13,670 --> 01:01:09,859
you got off

883
01:01:14,870 --> 01:01:13,680
with the same red light examined the whole

884
01:01:17,870 --> 01:01:14,880
boat

885
01:01:21,049 --> 01:01:17,880
looked for  everywhere he examined the

886
01:01:24,470 --> 01:01:21,059
boat and I can see this there he got on it went there he

887
01:01:25,990 --> 01:01:24,480
closed it and she fired he

888
01:01:29,630 --> 01:01:26,000
left I

889
01:01:31,130 --> 01:01:29,640
talked to him tomorrow I want to

890
01:01:41,230 --> 01:01:31,140
be in that

891
01:01:44,650 --> 01:01:43,849
we talked to Paulo Costa who is the owner

892
01:01:47,950 --> 01:01:44,660
of

893
01:01:50,630 --> 01:01:47,960
Olaria he authorized it and we went  there

894
01:01:54,890 --> 01:01:50,640
when we arrived at 7 o'clock at night it

895
01:01:58,549 --> 01:01:54,900
was raining in the rain it

896
01:02:02,390 --> 01:01:58,559
wasn't a storm it's not rain now

897
01:02:04,990 --> 01:02:02,400
the agents went inside a house

898
01:02:11,349 --> 01:02:05,000
that was the caretaker's house

899
01:02:19,450 --> 01:02:15,349
and I wasn't going to worry about coffee  because he's

900
01:02:25,390 --> 01:02:21,370
look see

901
01:02:29,450 --> 01:02:25,400
if he saw anything there's something

902
01:02:38,410 --> 01:02:29,460
he didn't see something dark he couldn't

903
01:02:45,470 --> 01:02:42,910
This was the one I'm making the noise of

904
01:02:52,270 --> 01:02:45,480
an air conditioning balloon in the very

905
01:02:58,750 --> 01:02:55,569
spinning something

906
01:03:06,490 --> 01:03:03,310
it was something like a blender

907
01:03:11,870 --> 01:03:08,589
over where

908
01:03:14,630 --> 01:03:11,880
I was at the door of the house and it was

909
01:03:17,530 --> 01:03:14,640
raining I was looking at it he passed it

910
01:03:24,710 --> 01:03:17,540
freed the tree

911
01:03:29,990 --> 01:03:26,930
's too dangerous that on a clear day

912
01:03:32,690 --> 01:03:30,000
imagine with rain and at night

913
01:03:34,150 --> 01:03:32,700
what to do  as configured time passed and

914
01:03:37,370 --> 01:03:34,160
left

915
01:03:37,990 --> 01:03:37,380
Captain I just saw a thing here

916
01:03:40,910 --> 01:03:38,000
now it

917
01:03:47,390 --> 01:03:40,920
appeared very strange there we are going to

918
01:03:53,870 --> 01:03:51,410
where Luiz had been we stopped the

919
01:03:57,410 --> 01:03:53,880
circus boat and walked to a tree

920
01:04:02,750 --> 01:03:59,750
so we went to this place like  Maria

921
01:04:07,430 --> 01:04:02,760
was filling us up with

922
01:04:08,750 --> 01:04:07,440
increasingly critical water, right, and we got to the

923
01:04:11,030 --> 01:04:08,760
position that we were in a situation

924
01:04:13,549 --> 01:04:11,040
where nothing had happened

925
01:04:16,370 --> 01:04:13,559
I already had the camera with

926
01:04:18,970 --> 01:04:16,380
everything with a suspension

927
01:04:31,910 --> 01:04:18,980
already in a little while  to go up in the wide

928
01:04:34,910 --> 01:04:33,710
Then we took a little canoe that was

929
01:04:37,609 --> 01:04:34,920
with us

930
01:04:39,829 --> 01:04:37,619
We went to the boat

931
01:04:43,630 --> 01:04:39,839
is stopped at the other base we just took the

932
01:04:46,150 --> 01:04:43,640
equipment and we drowned

933
01:04:49,609 --> 01:04:46,160
we left it here at the bar we

934
01:04:50,289 --> 01:04:49,619
stayed there now I'm going to stay a

935
01:04:53,170 --> 01:04:50,299
little bit more

936
01:05:02,049 --> 01:04:53,180
it will come back

937
01:05:07,690 --> 01:05:05,450
there at the end the river accumilar we are

938
01:05:10,609 --> 01:05:07,700
in a position on the left bank of the river

939
01:05:12,789 --> 01:05:10,619
and we saw the river closing there in

940
01:05:12,799 --> 01:05:17,349
about two thousand meters

941
01:05:24,170 --> 01:05:20,530
it passed from the left from the

942
01:05:25,630 --> 01:05:24,180
north to the south crossing from the river a

943
01:05:29,930 --> 01:05:25,640
light  very strong

944
01:05:34,430 --> 01:05:29,940
yellow both like a sun but very low

945
01:05:39,410 --> 01:05:37,190
in the same position more or less where

946
01:05:40,730 --> 01:05:39,420
the watchman's house is where I had seen the

947
01:05:47,530 --> 01:05:40,740
first thing

948
01:05:47,540 --> 01:05:57,670
there passed very low

949
01:06:17,289 --> 01:06:00,410
something like that

950
01:06:22,870 --> 01:06:19,690
that  I didn't go to Brasilia, I have

951
01:06:29,289 --> 01:06:22,880
n't

952
01:06:35,450 --> 01:06:31,930
Brazil left

953
01:06:50,630 --> 01:06:35,460
half a dozen windsocks in the middle of the

954
01:06:59,450 --> 01:06:54,130
register the time, height,

955
01:07:03,410 --> 01:07:01,270
right now, I'm not leaving here

956
01:07:04,390 --> 01:07:03,420
now, we're going to stay, but  he hadn't

957
01:07:10,029 --> 01:07:04,400
brought

958
01:07:16,190 --> 01:07:12,670
he proposed to his house

959
01:07:17,890 --> 01:07:16,200
in Rio to make coffee bring something

960
01:07:21,410 --> 01:07:20,150
could we stay longer at

961
01:07:25,849 --> 01:07:21,420
night drink water have a little coffee

962
01:07:27,589 --> 01:07:25,859
now he left with a little boat and there was a boat in the

963
01:07:28,750 --> 01:07:27,599
middle of the river

964
01:07:31,250 --> 01:07:28,760
Islet

965
01:07:33,529 --> 01:07:31,260
I'm not more than 15 or 20 meters

966
01:07:36,430 --> 01:07:33,539
wide, no, but it's very long, it looked like a

967
01:07:55,190 --> 01:07:39,829
Verde River, it left with a boat and disappeared on that

968
01:08:03,710 --> 01:08:01,970
from the

969
01:08:06,190 --> 01:08:03,720
boat the agents talking but it was the

970
01:08:14,790 --> 01:08:06,200
boss, he couldn't be giving me

971
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:21,370
[Music]

972
01:08:39,610 --> 01:08:25,309
on my side very strong the same

973
01:08:39,620 --> 01:09:06,110
they prepared a camera

974
01:09:12,470 --> 01:09:08,829
[Music]

975
01:09:14,209 --> 01:09:12,480
then we saw a strange shape

976
01:09:18,309 --> 01:09:14,219
with the shape of  a

977
01:09:27,550 --> 01:09:20,410
very big football

978
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:39,669
all

979
01:09:45,289 --> 01:09:43,070
very big about 100

980
01:09:47,930 --> 01:09:45,299
meters

981
01:09:50,329 --> 01:09:47,940
very big a

982
01:09:54,470 --> 01:09:50,339
big football passing over us lowers

983
01:09:57,130 --> 01:09:54,480
the height and makes a strange noise

984
01:10:00,830 --> 01:09:57,140
to make the noise of

985
01:10:03,290 --> 01:10:00,840
this air  conditioned

986
01:10:06,350 --> 01:10:03,300
when he walked slowly over

987
01:10:09,729 --> 01:10:06,360
us on purpose slowly very slowly the

988
01:10:13,610 --> 01:10:09,739
camcorder was on and

989
01:10:16,090 --> 01:10:13,620
its mechanism makes a noise

990
01:10:20,330 --> 01:10:16,100
I asked that the people who were moving

991
01:10:22,310 --> 01:10:20,340
were filming that he stop filming

992
01:10:24,649 --> 01:10:22,320
because he didn't want to I wanted to clear up a doubt

993
01:10:26,590 --> 01:10:24,659
I didn't  I wanted to confuse this noise from the

994
01:10:28,510 --> 01:10:26,600
machine that I

995
01:10:32,229 --> 01:10:28,520
was hearing

996
01:10:35,070 --> 01:10:32,239
it hits the Japanese

997
01:10:40,610 --> 01:10:35,080
I said that the guy could hit it

998
01:10:48,189 --> 01:10:44,510
he stopped you can you hear me I am it

999
01:10:50,570 --> 01:10:48,199
was this noise from the turnstile

1000
01:10:52,670 --> 01:10:50,580
there is a little weird noise there

1001
01:11:01,270 --> 01:10:52,680
in the middle in the middle of this noise

1002
01:11:07,610 --> 01:11:04,689
this thing that passed went away it

1003
01:11:13,630 --> 01:11:07,620
entered the bottom of the continent on the side of

1004
01:11:18,470 --> 01:11:16,550
now it got worse right now I only leave here

1005
01:11:19,970 --> 01:11:18,480
when I see more things because now it's

1006
01:11:21,830 --> 01:11:19,980
painting that

1007
01:11:23,930 --> 01:11:21,840
Come, something else could happen

1008
01:11:28,010 --> 01:11:23,940
in front

1009
01:11:30,229 --> 01:11:28,020
I want more or less some it was 11 o'clock

1010
01:11:32,630 --> 01:11:30,239
11:30 around it's

1011
01:11:33,430 --> 01:11:32,640
in the report of the right time I was

1012
01:11:47,209 --> 01:11:33,440
doing it

1013
01:11:53,709 --> 01:11:49,790
one o'clock in the morning

1014
01:11:57,229 --> 01:11:53,719
between 1:30 in the report that's right

1015
01:11:59,350 --> 01:11:57,239
it came following the same light but it

1016
01:12:02,810 --> 01:11:59,360
wasn't both anymore

1017
01:12:05,750 --> 01:12:02,820
Blue very strong

1018
01:12:08,330 --> 01:12:05,760
it came  following the side of the

1019
01:12:10,430 --> 01:12:08,340
opposite river bank

1020
01:12:13,510 --> 01:12:10,440
it has been accompanying it following it and

1021
01:12:16,430 --> 01:12:13,520
we see it look there look there

1022
01:12:19,790 --> 01:12:16,440
when it arrived in the direction of the Island it

1023
01:12:22,209 --> 01:12:19,800
entered in the direction of Belém

1024
01:12:25,250 --> 01:12:22,219
but it is very low

1025
01:12:27,770 --> 01:12:25,260
at the height of the guns and passing the Copa

1026
01:12:30,050 --> 01:12:27,780
das Águas but a light  very big one

1027
01:12:32,510 --> 01:12:30,060
next huge This was the most

1028
01:12:36,290 --> 01:12:32,520
complicated situation the most absorbed case within

1029
01:12:41,450 --> 01:12:38,990
she approached she entered Belém

1030
01:12:43,330 --> 01:12:41,460
then she came back towards us we

1031
01:12:46,870 --> 01:12:43,340
were seeing that a light down there

1032
01:12:53,510 --> 01:12:50,450
by his forest there I go but she  she came back

1033
01:12:54,649 --> 01:12:53,520
towards us she came and stood in

1034
01:12:57,290 --> 01:12:54,659
front of us

1035
01:13:00,290 --> 01:12:57,300
on the other bank of the river knowing that you

1036
01:13:02,810 --> 01:13:00,300
wanted to stop in front of us and then

1037
01:13:05,510 --> 01:13:02,820
I went out of curiosity out of

1038
01:13:13,390 --> 01:13:05,520
gratitude for the report I went to measure that

1039
01:13:19,550 --> 01:13:16,729
a blue sun

1040
01:13:21,910 --> 01:13:19,560
was very bright  strong but you

1041
01:13:24,550 --> 01:13:21,920
could face it you could keep frying it

1042
01:13:27,470 --> 01:13:24,560
didn't hurt you from that I did

1043
01:13:30,669 --> 01:13:27,480
n't see anything I just saw that light that

1044
01:13:33,229 --> 01:13:30,679
very strong light it's very strong a

1045
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:33,239
strange blue but very high very big I

1046
01:13:37,010 --> 01:14:10,550
[Music]

1047
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:16,149
suddenly this light  blue went out

1048
01:14:21,649 --> 01:14:19,490
and what was behind that light

1049
01:14:24,890 --> 01:14:21,659
that was emitting this light appeared the object

1050
01:14:27,770 --> 01:14:24,900
was this american football that

1051
01:14:30,229 --> 01:14:27,780
was standing in front of us

1052
01:14:31,630 --> 01:14:30,239
a soccer ball 100 meters

1053
01:14:35,330 --> 01:14:31,640
high

1054
01:14:36,310 --> 01:14:35,340
the stop in front of us I didn't see any window it

1055
01:14:42,890 --> 01:14:39,290
was too much  different it must have been the same

1056
01:14:48,790 --> 01:14:42,900
but it must have had the inside turned off I don't know

1057
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:54,169
about football it

1058
01:14:59,149 --> 01:14:56,290
stayed a little longer

1059
01:15:01,189 --> 01:14:59,159
and suddenly she ate with fear of now

1060
01:15:02,450 --> 01:15:01,199
everyone and now these guys are coming to

1061
01:15:04,550 --> 01:15:02,460
carry us

1062
01:15:06,110 --> 01:15:04,560
how is it going

1063
01:15:17,050 --> 01:15:06,120
nobody knew what what  from then

1064
01:15:21,649 --> 01:15:19,669
something extraordinary was going to happen within

1065
01:15:24,850 --> 01:15:21,659
ufology are testimonies first

1066
01:15:27,649 --> 01:15:24,860
absolutely qualified

1067
01:15:29,750 --> 01:15:27,659
witnesses the object seen will

1068
01:15:32,510 --> 01:15:29,760
witnesses all of them can be

1069
01:15:35,030 --> 01:15:32,520
within a military function that is

1070
01:15:36,910 --> 01:15:35,040
precisely linked to that why in

1071
01:15:40,250 --> 01:15:36,920
your opinion is such an objective

1072
01:15:42,530 --> 01:15:40,260
Ships in your opinion these areas

1073
01:15:46,990 --> 01:15:42,540
insisted so much on appearing in the northeast in

1074
01:15:51,950 --> 01:15:50,750
will answer you a personal conclusion

1075
01:15:58,910 --> 01:15:55,270
this conclusion I put some friends

1076
01:16:01,490 --> 01:15:58,920
Seriously that ufology I treat it very

1077
01:16:03,530 --> 01:16:01,500
seriously I became much

1078
01:16:06,229 --> 01:16:03,540
more interested after the aeronautics stopped I

1079
01:16:09,169 --> 01:16:06,239
continued interested  on the subject and for

1080
01:16:14,090 --> 01:16:11,470
I discard a lot of

1081
01:16:15,950 --> 01:16:14,100
sightings because I didn't see it I'm not

1082
01:16:19,430 --> 01:16:15,960
sure I started to study it

1083
01:16:21,649 --> 01:16:19,440
much more seriously and I went to try to

1084
01:16:23,209 --> 01:16:21,659
understand it I had already seen it now I

1085
01:16:26,410 --> 01:16:23,219
wanted to understand it

1086
01:16:28,430 --> 01:16:26,420
I wanted to draw conclusions

1087
01:16:30,350 --> 01:16:28,440
conclusions that I couldn't put in the

1088
01:16:34,270 --> 01:16:30,360
report  because it was a conclusion of

1089
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:41,290
difficulties

1090
01:16:46,990 --> 01:16:45,410
in operations in the Jungle that's why

1091
01:16:51,530 --> 01:16:47,000
my conclusion

1092
01:16:58,010 --> 01:16:54,110
and we are very careful, we were very

1093
01:17:00,709 --> 01:16:58,020
concerned about not transmitting to the

1094
01:17:03,770 --> 01:17:00,719
Indians any disease that

1095
01:17:06,350 --> 01:17:03,780
we had controlled during the body of

1096
01:17:09,229 --> 01:17:06,360
ours that they  they didn't have it and you could

1097
01:17:11,630 --> 01:17:09,239
have the flu a measles But

1098
01:17:14,030 --> 01:17:11,640
something of that nature because we

1099
01:17:15,530 --> 01:17:14,040
have a tragedy that we have it

1100
01:17:17,229 --> 01:17:15,540
inside our body more controlled

1101
01:17:20,330 --> 01:17:17,239
we have

1102
01:17:23,450 --> 01:17:20,340
these things exist in our in our

1103
01:17:26,570 --> 01:17:23,460
organism but we are not sure and he didn't

1104
01:17:29,149 --> 01:17:26,580
have  I had a lot of concern and that

1105
01:17:32,930 --> 01:17:29,159
voluntarily but not fulfilling the mission

1106
01:17:35,870 --> 01:17:32,940
I had and

1107
01:17:37,910 --> 01:17:35,880
happily transmitted it Never There was a case like this I

1108
01:17:41,470 --> 01:17:37,920
don't remember having involuntarily

1109
01:17:45,290 --> 01:17:41,480
damaged any Indian in that way

1110
01:17:47,330 --> 01:17:45,300
this is that it was my concern it

1111
01:17:50,630 --> 01:17:47,340
is my concern and I went to

1112
01:17:52,970 --> 01:17:50,640
conclude  another thing regarding

1113
01:17:54,470 --> 01:17:52,980
why why are they doing

1114
01:17:56,689 --> 01:17:54,480
this

1115
01:18:01,610 --> 01:17:56,699
if i were him i put myself in

1116
01:18:05,950 --> 01:18:01,620
his shoes i needed an

1117
01:18:11,930 --> 01:18:08,810
what would i have to do i wanted to

1118
01:18:15,590 --> 01:18:11,940
protect myself i him i like he would have

1119
01:18:19,070 --> 01:18:15,600
to protect and protect me as knowing

1120
01:18:22,310 --> 01:18:19,080
that you already are you put it inside your

1121
01:18:26,110 --> 01:18:22,320
body that could damage my body you

1122
01:18:29,209 --> 01:18:26,120
know I could only do this

1123
01:18:30,430 --> 01:18:29,219
defense of mine if I had death in

1124
01:18:34,729 --> 01:18:30,440
your blood a sample

1125
01:18:37,450 --> 01:18:34,739
of your tissue and it wasn't hard for me to

1126
01:18:40,729 --> 01:18:37,460
imagine  that they were doing

1127
01:18:43,189 --> 01:18:40,739
these things that became even like a

1128
01:18:46,070 --> 01:18:43,199
joke chupa chupa that he was

1129
01:18:49,189 --> 01:18:46,080
collecting material

1130
01:18:50,870 --> 01:18:49,199
if he was collecting blood to

1131
01:18:53,689 --> 01:18:50,880
see what was with you in that blood

1132
01:18:56,330 --> 01:18:53,699
that could damage them in a

1133
01:19:00,229 --> 01:18:56,340
necessary contact in the future

1134
01:19:04,550 --> 01:19:00,239
right then and not only the blood but

1135
01:19:08,689 --> 01:19:04,560
also material cell I don't know what it

1136
01:19:09,490 --> 01:19:08,699
is this this light this light with High

1137
01:19:12,050 --> 01:19:09,500
Energy

1138
01:19:15,189 --> 01:19:12,060
what it could do if it could

1139
01:19:18,669 --> 01:19:15,199
transport this material also

1140
01:19:28,209 --> 01:19:21,110
that could be marked

1141
01:19:34,130 --> 01:19:31,510
doing a repetition This is already

1142
01:19:36,410 --> 01:19:34,140
recent  At the time, I didn't think anything

1143
01:19:37,630 --> 01:19:36,420
of that, okay? But I thought he was

1144
01:19:40,850 --> 01:19:37,640
collecting material to defend himself

1145
01:19:44,209 --> 01:19:40,860
in a contact that needed to

1146
01:19:47,270 --> 01:19:44,219
make close contact and that could

1147
01:19:56,770 --> 01:19:47,280
be notified by some situation in the

1148
01:19:56,780 --> 01:20:02,270
like something like that, they

1149
01:20:07,430 --> 01:20:05,630
didn't think it was already a  Umbrella

1150
01:20:09,830 --> 01:20:07,440
that was something that came from Padre

1151
01:20:11,750 --> 01:20:09,840
another planet and they are already seeing them they

1152
01:20:14,110 --> 01:20:11,760
saw shapes they saw lights they saw them they

1153
01:20:17,209 --> 01:20:14,120
saw shapes before me

1154
01:20:22,450 --> 01:20:17,219
I spent a long time to see the

1155
01:20:44,890 --> 01:20:26,209
they used a rocket they used they were

1156
01:21:17,290 --> 01:20:47,689
the Padre himself said no  one

1157
01:21:24,290 --> 01:21:20,470
this report was passed on to the Comandante it

1158
01:21:27,850 --> 01:21:24,300
was said how it was later the film

1159
01:21:33,490 --> 01:21:27,860
was developed and it was seen in the

1160
01:21:33,500 --> 01:21:38,470
we took no

1161
01:21:42,669 --> 01:21:40,610
one interesting thing is that we took it

1162
01:21:48,470 --> 01:21:42,679
from

1163
01:21:51,110 --> 01:21:48,480
the film slowly past ok this is this

1164
01:21:53,090 --> 01:21:51,120
standing shape

1165
01:21:55,550 --> 01:21:53,100
that we had not seen

1166
01:21:58,130 --> 01:21:55,560
we couldn't see it we didn't realize it we

1167
01:22:02,270 --> 01:21:58,140
heard it after the impression in the

1168
01:22:05,890 --> 01:22:02,280
photographic emotion this thing had at the top at the

1169
01:22:17,110 --> 01:22:05,900
top a door with the plane door

1170
01:22:20,990 --> 01:22:19,370
someone focusing something in our

1171
01:22:23,930 --> 01:22:21,000
direction okay but that's

1172
01:22:27,050 --> 01:22:23,940
us  I didn't see it, I don't

1173
01:22:29,330 --> 01:22:27,060
know if it was

1174
01:22:31,090 --> 01:22:29,340
with this very strong Blue light

1175
01:22:34,149 --> 01:22:31,100
that we didn't see that a way inside

1176
01:22:37,850 --> 01:22:34,159
to make that ball

1177
01:22:39,970 --> 01:22:37,860
with a declaration of that level an

1178
01:22:43,810 --> 01:22:39,980
extraordinary thing like that

1179
01:22:46,669 --> 01:22:43,820
already three or four months of work

1180
01:22:48,790 --> 01:22:46,679
why  the sea because for ours it was

1181
01:22:48,790 --> 01:22:51,950
then to deactivate the project.

1182
01:23:11,410 --> 01:23:09,590
can answer maybe who has the

1183
01:23:16,070 --> 01:23:11,420
most dented

1184
01:23:19,209 --> 01:23:16,080
face maybe who they are there is no answer where they

1185
01:23:21,890 --> 01:23:19,219
come from there is no answer what

1186
01:23:24,110 --> 01:23:21,900
they want also there are no

1187
01:23:28,030 --> 01:23:24,120
answers to the three questions that will be

1188
01:23:31,430 --> 01:23:28,040
asked that no one can answer and that

1189
01:23:32,870 --> 01:23:31,440
empties the subject demoralizes even the

1190
01:23:34,490 --> 01:23:32,880
institution  air force the

1191
01:23:37,729 --> 01:23:34,500
Brazilian government even so would not compensate

1192
01:23:42,070 --> 01:23:37,739
for keeping the project looking for

1193
01:23:45,350 --> 01:23:42,080
these three or more or other answers

1194
01:24:08,950 --> 01:23:45,360
if I were the commander if I had

1195
01:24:13,970 --> 01:24:12,169
this conclusion about the collection of

1196
01:24:15,790 --> 01:24:13,980
material to make a

1197
01:24:17,470 --> 01:24:15,800
[Music]

1198
01:24:21,610 --> 01:24:17,480
vaccine

1199
01:24:23,530 --> 01:24:21,620
a serological solution  that he said

1200
01:24:29,149 --> 01:24:23,540
any

1201
01:24:32,810 --> 01:24:29,159
of these aliens

1202
01:24:33,729 --> 01:24:32,820
from the blood of the polished material of the

1203
01:24:38,810 --> 01:24:33,739
human body

1204
01:24:42,830 --> 01:24:38,820
ok it was an occasion was exposed to

1205
01:24:46,010 --> 01:24:42,840
when I visited Rafael semperi in

1206
01:24:48,850 --> 01:24:46,020
São Paulo after the student the conversation

1207
01:24:51,430 --> 01:24:48,860
my opinion was put to  Rafael

1208
01:24:54,169 --> 01:24:51,440
and Rafael told me This was the

1209
01:24:58,209 --> 01:24:54,179
most logical explanation I saw

1210
01:25:04,550 --> 01:25:02,570
was aggression and it doesn't seem like aggression

1211
01:25:04,550 --> 01:25:06,110
to me at all

1212
01:25:12,590 --> 01:25:10,430
and he

1213
01:25:14,990 --> 01:25:12,600
thanked me and said look it was the

1214
01:25:19,070 --> 01:25:15,000
most logical explanation that I understood that I heard

1215
01:25:26,709 --> 01:25:19,080
so far after operations

1216
01:25:34,790 --> 01:25:31,189
several times I tried to write

1217
01:25:38,350 --> 01:25:34,800
a final report report is still on a

1218
01:25:42,590 --> 01:25:38,360
case by case basis ok for example one night

1219
01:25:44,709 --> 01:25:42,600
it happened three times so

1220
01:25:48,830 --> 01:25:44,719
a report had to be made

1221
01:25:49,689 --> 01:25:48,840
on that and a final report I

1222
01:25:56,330 --> 01:25:53,149
tried to write several times and what I wrote I

1223
01:26:13,800 --> 01:25:56,340
thought that in Brasilia and they called me

1224
01:26:13,810 --> 01:26:32,229
[Music]

1225
01:26:32,239 --> 01:26:47,050
and once I was at home  I've

1226
01:26:53,570 --> 01:26:50,090
never said that to anyone

1227
01:26:59,930 --> 01:26:56,810
telling you now I'm 60

1228
01:27:02,990 --> 01:26:59,940
in a little while I'm 70 if I get there and it doesn't

1229
01:27:04,729 --> 01:27:03,000
disappear before then

1230
01:27:19,570 --> 01:27:04,739
I

1231
01:27:25,129 --> 01:27:22,310
?  with me that he

1232
01:27:28,910 --> 01:27:25,139
asked he wanted to know about what

1233
01:27:32,209 --> 01:27:30,950
I didn't even know about his existence of the

1234
01:27:34,550 --> 01:27:32,219
crabs that had occurred there after

1235
01:27:35,990 --> 01:27:34,560
once checking what it was What

1236
01:27:38,330 --> 01:27:36,000
others say they looked for to know about

1237
01:27:43,850 --> 01:27:38,340
national and international meals a

1238
01:27:43,860 --> 01:27:51,669
several several

1239
01:27:58,910 --> 01:27:55,870
he wrote he called me

1240
01:28:00,830 --> 01:27:58,920
but he wanted to talk and we didn't have it I

1241
01:28:08,229 --> 01:28:00,840
couldn't speak I don't know

1242
01:28:18,050 --> 01:28:11,470
talked to me He

1243
01:28:19,930 --> 01:28:18,060
looked for me and I changed he looked for me there was a

1244
01:28:34,870 --> 01:28:19,940
guy from Argentina whose name I don't know

1245
01:28:40,450 --> 01:28:37,729
talk to him about the subject, they even

1246
01:28:42,350 --> 01:28:40,460
saw some photographs, okay,

1247
01:28:43,810 --> 01:28:42,360
we talked about some official word

1248
01:28:46,970 --> 01:28:43,820
from the Brazilian Air Force,

1249
01:28:49,910 --> 01:28:46,980
okay, and I am not authorized by anyone

1250
01:28:49,910 --> 01:28:53,950
to give an opinion on

1251
01:28:57,709 --> 01:28:55,729
anything.  exchanging

1252
01:29:00,229 --> 01:28:57,719
correspondence continue playing

1253
01:29:04,270 --> 01:29:00,239
correspondence I was often

1254
01:29:09,290 --> 01:29:04,280
consulted some cases logronio

1255
01:29:13,990 --> 01:29:09,300
not Rafael never a priest a probe

1256
01:29:18,350 --> 01:29:16,490
this opinion about

1257
01:29:20,209 --> 01:29:18,360
international consoles also in Spain

1258
01:29:22,430 --> 01:29:20,219
interesting nationals sent a personalized case

1259
01:29:35,169 --> 01:29:24,950
through Rafael to be hung Marcos

1260
01:29:44,510 --> 01:29:40,669
us  United States so I was at home I

1261
01:29:46,729 --> 01:29:44,520
had received a lot of books as a gift

1262
01:29:59,229 --> 01:29:48,970
these books I was looking to

1263
01:30:04,129 --> 01:30:02,689
too much knowledge about ufology you

1264
01:30:07,990 --> 01:30:04,139
were interested no longer had

1265
01:30:12,709 --> 01:30:10,550
and one day I had put up a shelf I

1266
01:30:14,810 --> 01:30:12,719
lived in the village  military very far from the

1267
01:30:16,430 --> 01:30:14,820
highway

1268
01:30:19,250 --> 01:30:16,440
this important detail because there was no

1269
01:30:26,770 --> 01:30:22,669
she saw the military become a

1270
01:30:31,729 --> 01:30:29,090
they were stacked one on top

1271
01:30:34,330 --> 01:30:31,739
of the other on my shelf

1272
01:30:38,110 --> 01:30:34,340
I was lying down and I wasn't reading a sheet

1273
01:30:38,110 --> 01:30:40,870
that day I was reading  another Rosicrucian book

1274
01:30:46,850 --> 01:30:44,090
that had nothing to do with hunger and

1275
01:30:49,010 --> 01:30:46,860
my daughter is here at home she

1276
01:30:51,169 --> 01:30:49,020
is here she was tiny I was reading

1277
01:30:53,570 --> 01:30:51,179
a children's magazine at my

1278
01:31:03,729 --> 01:30:53,580
bedside I was lying on the bed and she

1279
01:31:03,739 --> 01:31:26,290
and  they fell to the floor

1280
01:31:36,410 --> 01:31:28,510
until the floor

1281
01:31:42,830 --> 01:31:38,870
but how funny it was even interesting funny

1282
01:31:44,950 --> 01:31:42,840
how did the book fall

1283
01:31:47,330 --> 01:31:44,960
at the same time as the

1284
01:31:49,669 --> 01:31:47,340
event my wife who was

1285
01:31:57,050 --> 01:31:49,679
downstairs preparing the children's bottles

1286
01:32:01,550 --> 01:31:59,570
the same thing happened downstairs only

1287
01:32:04,430 --> 01:32:01,560
with  a tray with cups and

1288
01:32:08,220 --> 01:32:04,440
cutlery they tray woman alone

1289
01:32:10,810 --> 01:32:08,230
downstairs the flag went flying

1290
01:32:15,890 --> 01:32:10,820
[Music]

1291
01:32:19,810 --> 01:32:15,900
through the kitchen and it fell a glass didn't break

1292
01:32:22,810 --> 01:32:19,820
that noise I saw that noise

1293
01:32:26,030 --> 01:32:22,820
and got up

1294
01:32:28,850 --> 01:32:26,040
before that I had even played when

1295
01:32:30,950 --> 01:32:28,860
it happened soon this daughter fell it was  soon

1296
01:32:33,470 --> 01:32:30,960
after this thing happened downstairs I

1297
01:32:37,070 --> 01:32:33,480
even played I got the books I put them in their

1298
01:32:44,530 --> 01:32:37,080
place I arrived here at the place it's in the

1299
01:32:50,810 --> 01:32:47,050
this happened downstairs at my house

1300
01:32:52,370 --> 01:32:50,820
the flag flew and fell

1301
01:32:59,290 --> 01:32:52,380
because of the noise I thought it had

1302
01:33:03,770 --> 01:33:02,810
two floors I said I was going down that

1303
01:33:05,870 --> 01:33:03,780
she came up with her eyes

1304
01:33:07,010 --> 01:33:05,880
wide open then you don't stay

1305
01:33:11,330 --> 01:33:07,020
down there anymore I don't

1306
01:33:11,340 --> 01:33:18,850
she had no reason to leave

1307
01:33:28,450 --> 01:33:22,550
Every time she flew away and ended up in the

1308
01:33:35,030 --> 01:33:31,850
I don't understand let's have the tray and I put it

1309
01:33:36,970 --> 01:33:35,040
in its place then I took a glass of water  ok

1310
01:33:40,689 --> 01:33:39,770
soon after the two or three days

1311
01:33:43,490 --> 01:33:40,699
later

1312
01:33:49,370 --> 01:33:43,500
I was

1313
01:33:59,870 --> 01:33:49,380
was doing a kind of

1314
01:34:05,689 --> 01:34:02,090
it was around midnight

1315
01:34:07,610 --> 01:34:05,699
I was lying down my wife

1316
01:34:11,050 --> 01:34:07,620
next to me on the bed and I was  lying on my

1317
01:34:13,810 --> 01:34:12,250
sudden

1318
01:34:16,070 --> 01:34:13,820
[Music]

1319
01:34:19,129 --> 01:34:16,080
in my room

1320
01:34:22,189 --> 01:34:19,139
a flash very strong

1321
01:34:24,729 --> 01:34:22,199
very strong I crack as if

1322
01:34:27,350 --> 01:34:24,739
something like that had happened to

1323
01:34:29,510 --> 01:34:27,360
that box with a

1324
01:34:31,390 --> 01:34:29,520
circuit breaker as if it had asked for some

1325
01:34:34,970 --> 01:34:31,400
problem there old

1326
01:34:39,189 --> 01:34:34,980
very big very strong and at the same

1327
01:34:44,750 --> 01:34:43,010
I got scared you saw it

1328
01:34:48,470 --> 01:34:44,760
and

1329
01:34:50,209 --> 01:34:48,480
immediately after that there was someone behind

1330
01:34:52,189 --> 01:34:50,219
me hugging me until a

1331
01:34:54,129 --> 01:34:52,199
kind of weird situation the guy passing me from

1332
01:34:59,570 --> 01:34:54,139
behind I didn't like the story very much

1333
01:35:05,990 --> 01:35:03,189
it was a meter  and a half more or less Like

1334
01:35:19,310 --> 01:35:06,000
dressed in clothes similar to this

1335
01:35:27,310 --> 01:35:22,669
the face doesn't live but it was gray lead gray

1336
01:35:27,320 --> 01:35:32,050
a machine

1337
01:35:38,270 --> 01:35:34,910
I was very scared

1338
01:35:40,910 --> 01:35:38,280
and that animal goes hugging me

1339
01:35:43,669 --> 01:35:40,920
hugged me squeezed me and spoke in my ear

1340
01:35:48,370 --> 01:35:43,679
in Portuguese

1341
01:35:50,229 --> 01:35:48,380
with the sound of  today we even listen to

1342
01:36:01,629 --> 01:35:50,239
our

1343
01:36:01,639 --> 01:36:06,740
no harm

1344
01:36:06,750 --> 01:36:15,950
[Music]

1345
01:36:15,960 --> 01:36:21,669
I looked there is this short one

1346
01:36:27,649 --> 01:36:24,770
I was opposite her

1347
01:36:30,530 --> 01:36:27,659
right after that the other one is there and the

1348
01:36:30,540 --> 01:36:35,110
I was very scared everyone I

1349
01:36:40,010 --> 01:36:37,610
don't remember I don't remember that I

1350
01:36:44,510 --> 01:36:40,020
was after Could it be  that I dreamed

1351
01:36:58,450 --> 01:36:44,520
Was it but twice I was

1352
01:37:06,709 --> 01:37:02,290
the next day it happened again

1353
01:37:08,870 --> 01:37:06,719
the next day I was the role

1354
01:37:11,390 --> 01:37:08,880
my wife always closed the gate of the

1355
01:37:15,290 --> 01:37:11,400
house because of the dogs for the

1356
01:37:18,290 --> 01:37:15,300
children I went out with the car in reverse

1357
01:37:20,090 --> 01:37:18,300
when I  I left she closed the gate if

1358
01:37:21,729 --> 01:37:20,100
she accompanied me until the car got in the

1359
01:37:26,470 --> 01:37:21,739
car

1360
01:37:29,209 --> 01:37:26,480
I

1361
01:37:31,010 --> 01:37:29,219
had at that time

1362
01:37:34,490 --> 01:37:31,020
there is a legislative fact this car

1363
01:37:38,590 --> 01:37:34,500
again I had a navy blue Alfa Romeo

1364
01:37:42,770 --> 01:37:38,600
I went to put the key in the car  because

1365
01:37:44,330 --> 01:37:42,780
of the driver's door when I got

1366
01:37:45,950 --> 01:37:44,340
close to the door the door on the other side

1367
01:37:47,570 --> 01:37:45,960
opened and my wife was watching she

1368
01:37:50,209 --> 01:37:47,580
was scared the door on the other side

1369
01:37:54,669 --> 01:37:50,219
opened by itself I hadn't touched the

1370
01:37:54,679 --> 01:37:59,410
the door on the other side opened

1371
01:39:09,890 --> 01:38:01,669
my wife was looking,

1372
01:39:09,900 --> 01:39:14,050
[Music]

1373
01:39:14,060 --> 01:39:19,270
and all around it Pink

1374
01:39:19,280 --> 01:39:33,729
right from 77 it

1375
01:39:39,610 --> 01:39:35,770
wasn't curiosity

1376
01:39:42,110 --> 01:39:39,620
I pressed that point

1377
01:41:03,100 --> 01:39:42,120
when I pressed it seems like the traffic here

1378
01:41:03,110 --> 01:41:08,350
[Music]

1379
01:41:13,610 --> 01:41:10,250
later I talked to one  friend of my

1380
01:41:15,729 --> 01:41:13,620
doctor I showed him we

1381
01:41:22,990 --> 01:41:15,739
went to the hospital they

1382
01:41:28,189 --> 01:41:25,430
São Paulo I talked to Rafael without a

1383
01:41:31,149 --> 01:41:28,199
fart there Rafael had half of

1384
01:41:31,159 --> 01:41:35,290
their apartment

1385
01:41:41,390 --> 01:41:38,149
he arrived and just took a tiny

1386
01:41:42,830 --> 01:41:41,400
little compass that he had let me take

1387
01:41:49,570 --> 01:41:42,840
a look here when he put it  the

1388
01:41:49,580 --> 01:42:09,250
he arrived he put on he smokes punishment

1389
01:42:16,790 --> 01:42:12,669
adding That's it there is a drug dealer I

1390
01:42:18,530 --> 01:42:16,800
talked to the doctor Good night do the

1391
01:42:22,370 --> 01:42:18,540
radiological research that there nothing shows up

1392
01:42:25,790 --> 01:42:22,380
there I talked to

1393
01:42:28,790 --> 01:42:25,800
Rafael I'm going to have the skin opened here and

1394
01:42:32,229 --> 01:42:28,800
see what it is  boy if i were you i would

1395
01:42:32,239 --> 01:42:46,450
bother you no i've already done different

1396
01:42:53,090 --> 01:42:50,810
research like determination like the

1397
01:42:54,770 --> 01:42:53,100
program no i don't believe there's no

1398
01:42:58,070 --> 01:42:54,780
information about it first i

1399
01:43:00,530 --> 01:42:58,080
'm out i'm in the reserve there's very

1400
01:43:01,810 --> 01:43:00,540
little contact to not be financed by the

1401
01:43:05,570 --> 01:43:01,820
aeronautical ministry

1402
01:43:10,070 --> 01:43:05,580
there is  friends there but I never heard

1403
01:43:13,129 --> 01:43:10,080
about it that there was a program

1404
01:43:14,870 --> 01:43:13,139
an eventuality occurred an event the

1405
01:43:17,810 --> 01:43:14,880
Ministry will investigate

1406
01:43:19,330 --> 01:43:17,820
how it investigated the case of 05 those who

1407
01:43:22,310 --> 01:43:19,340
left

1408
01:43:27,490 --> 01:43:22,320
but with the program I

1409
01:43:31,609 --> 01:43:29,930
of the Brazilian government of research

1410
01:43:33,890 --> 01:43:31,619
my personal opinion I think that  yes if I

1411
01:43:36,290 --> 01:43:33,900
were a Commander if I were a Commander on

1412
01:43:37,990 --> 01:43:36,300
your Brazilian vacation I would do it that way

1413
01:43:41,870 --> 01:43:38,000
I already have

1414
01:43:46,450 --> 01:43:41,880
my personal reasons But even if we

1415
01:43:46,460 --> 01:43:53,709
it was made of the operation of the document I

1416
01:44:00,910 --> 01:43:55,790
was not aware of any

1417
01:44:14,530 --> 01:44:03,229
were the photographs contained in the

1418
01:44:22,510 --> 01:44:16,990
But you won't have anything about it

1419
01:44:28,430 --> 01:44:25,330
here it

1420
01:44:32,169 --> 01:44:28,440
means it's kept but you won't have

1421
01:44:48,690 --> 01:44:35,320
movies The four sons

1422
01:45:24,109 --> 01:45:04,570
[Music]

1423
01:45:30,410 --> 01:45:26,709
I've always had a lot of respect

1424
01:45:33,350 --> 01:45:30,420
for the air force and for my service I

1425
01:45:35,629 --> 01:45:33,360
never  would that happen

1426
01:45:38,149 --> 01:45:35,639
I kept quiet 20 years I

1427
01:45:42,050 --> 01:45:38,159
was consulted I was contacted several

1428
01:45:44,270 --> 01:45:42,060
times and asked to make the

1429
01:45:45,950 --> 01:45:44,280
declaration yourself you asked me I

1430
01:45:49,430 --> 01:45:45,960
can't talk oh no today I'm in the

1431
01:45:50,870 --> 01:45:49,440
reserve and for the military they remain

1432
01:45:53,030 --> 01:45:50,880
the air force that knows that these

1433
01:45:56,870 --> 01:45:53,040
documents exist and that the  population has the

1434
01:45:58,850 --> 01:45:56,880
right to know them I think these

1435
01:46:00,410 --> 01:45:58,860
documents should be released to the

1436
01:46:03,050 --> 01:46:00,420
public that's a

1437
01:46:06,790 --> 01:46:03,060
command decision I think

1438
01:46:12,770 --> 01:46:10,490
opens up if I say right away there are

1439
01:46:13,910 --> 01:46:12,780
other questions the Ministry of

1440
01:46:16,490 --> 01:46:13,920
Aeronautics the Brazilian government has no

1441
01:46:19,669 --> 01:46:16,500
answer

1442
01:46:19,679 --> 01:46:24,430
Once I was watching

1443
01:46:31,970 --> 01:46:28,250
this thing in Maracanã for everyone to

1444
01:46:36,310 --> 01:46:31,980
see if a case of these people happened nothing

1445
01:46:41,750 --> 01:46:38,270
I believe is that in the

1446
01:46:43,370 --> 01:46:41,760
very near future and I can even be one  a

1447
01:46:46,609 --> 01:46:43,380
little more abused than I'm

1448
01:46:49,070 --> 01:46:46,619
telling you it's not enough for two years

1449
01:46:50,870 --> 01:46:49,080
this event will happen

1450
01:46:53,090 --> 01:46:50,880
within a year and a half to two years this

1451
01:46:54,430 --> 01:46:53,100
event will happen contact Claro

1452
01:46:57,109 --> 01:46:54,440
open

1453
01:46:59,810 --> 01:46:57,119
all televisions in the world CNN Globo

1454
01:47:06,189 --> 01:46:59,820
everyone watching this should happen

1455
01:47:11,090 --> 01:47:08,169
I was the

1456
01:47:15,870 --> 01:47:11,100
first thing that

1457
01:47:22,689 --> 01:47:15,880
arrived at the Minister to reach the public

1458
01:47:28,250 --> 01:47:26,450
is not authorized to speak there is no

1459
01:47:29,810 --> 01:47:28,260
credit from Porto Alegre that is the

1460
01:47:31,270 --> 01:47:29,820
subject I was in a very stupid situation

1461
01:47:38,350 --> 01:47:34,129
the captain is not authorized it has

1462
01:47:38,360 --> 01:47:42,229
I'm You